Threesomes are a big part of our diet, and a regular part. Not a fetish, almost an orientation. Three feels balanced in some weird way that four and more do not. More shared intimacy. Our regular FWB is mature, bi, vers, hung, and an ethical guy. Been playing together regularly for over a year now, he's become a good friend. He and I are openly bi. Our mutual friends know about the three of us. Sometimes he hosts, sometimes us. Everything is always easy, simple, clear, comfortable, playful, noisy, fun, affectionate. They are gorgeous together, she is never more beautiful in my eyes. She says the same of he and I together. She just loves it. Mostly we play in a big pile. We played most of Sunday afternoon, and it was epic, again. Afterwards, she and I share and cuddle and make love again and I came for the 3rd time in a few hours. We have something so good, so rich, so much love, for each other, for our friends. Sharing gives us more to share with each other. Win-win-win. We've stayed in love all these years, don't take each other for granted. Great honesty & trust & intimacy. We've never had a fight or an argument or a real conflict. I wish, wish, wish we could take what we have and share it with the unhappy couples we know. And the people who make themselves lonely. Wish there was some secret I could just give them.
[FONT=verdana][SIZE=3]The risks, you say? Again, they are real but you stand a better chance of, say, getting jacked up or killed in a car accident on your way to work or dropping dead from a sudden heart attack or stroke; you could be on a ladder, cleaning your gutters and the next thing you know, you're in the ER getting that broken arm or leg repaired. There is nothing in this life that is without some degree of risk. Worried about the little woman - or your ball and chain if you care to think about her like that - finding out? That's a risk, too, but one that can be minimized and, I hate to say it like this, [B]if[/B] you're smart and careful enough. Yeah, it sounds fucked up to be pulling the wool over her eyes like this - and it is, make no mistake about that but, again, I speak to the guys who aren't having their sexual needs met and those guys for whom a woman cannot provide the sexual comfort they need: If she's not gonna fuck you like you want and need to be fucked when you crave pussy, who's supposed to? And if it's dick you need to make you feel more like the man you need to be, she doesn't have one. Yeah, she can buy one and use it on you if she really gave a fuck about your sexual needs but even the guys who go this route know that while a fake dick is nice, it's never a replacement for the real thing. And if you don't know what it's like to be subjected to another man's lust, you really don't know what you're missing. As men, we are "trained" to do one simple thing: If it's not gonna happen the way you want and need it to happen, make it happen. You know, where there's a will, there's a way? Find a way to get the dick/ass you want and need and accept the additional challenge to keep everyone as safe as you can while doing it. Breaking the rules is a "bad thing" but, again, our women break these rules every damned day and with impunity because they know they can break them and we're not gonna do a damned thing about it other than sit back and feel sorry for ourselves and if you don't believe this, ask yourself how she reacted when you asked her to give you a blow job and what she said when she did. You want dick? Go get some but do yourself a favor and don't be stupid about it. It can be done because myself and a whole lot of other guys all over the fucking planet are doing just that and if we can find a way to get our "fair share" of cock, you should be able to as well. But if you never try, you'll never succeed.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana][SIZE=3]I'm not and would never say that any of us shouldn't approach this kind of sex without thinking about the morality of it all but that morality is flawed and deliberately skewed in one direction - toward women only and I'll not bore you with why this is the way it is. We just know that this morality isn't locked in stone because if it were, no one would ever have any sex with anyone other than a woman and we know this was never the case. We'd prefer not to cause others any harm in this... but for those men who are on this path because a woman played a role in them being on the path, are you and have you not been harmed by being denied the sex you need and the way you need it while being at her mercy all along? And isn't it just really fucked up if a woman decides that she needs some pussy to go along with her dick... and everyone thinks that not only does she have the right to do, it's pretty fucking cool, too? So why can't we, as men, say that if it's good enough for the gander, it's good enough for the goose? And don't many of us do just that? We are men; we are hard-wired to need sex and you don't have to be a genius to figure out that if you wanna get laid and get your nuts busted wide open, get with another guy and one who, for the most part, isn't going to have a problem seeing to your needs while getting his own attended to. Is it risky? All sex is risky but the risks can be minimized or even eliminated easily enough - buy a case or two of condoms and always carry some on you because sex happens spontaneously more than it does when it's planned. I'll say it and even if no one else will: It kills me to see guys sitting on the bench and being fearful of getting out there and availing themselves of the cock and ass they know is out there, spending more time thinking about all the things that could go wrong and not spending that much time thinking about how they will be made better if they just got out there and sucked that dick, fuck some guy in the ass, or be fucked. In this, our fears make us foolish... but those fears shouldn't be ignored; figure out how to make whatever scares you not be so scary. Be smart about what you do and just like in boxing, protect yourself at all times. If you're reading this and saying, "Yeah, but...," think about the fact that you just proved what I said about spending more time thinking about shit going sideways than you are getting the sexual satisfaction you need from other men who are just like you. Think about that one. No: You don't accept the risks without having a plan in place to cover your ass because if it can go wrong, it will go wrong. If you're sitting on the bench and waiting for Mr. Right to come along because the thought of getting with Mr. Right Now makes you want to shit yourself, why are you so surprised you haven't gotten any dick yet? It kills me to see men saying, "I can't find a guy to have sex with!" when there are literally millions of men out there who'd give their left nut to have sex with you. Yeah, you want what you want and the way you want it but if you don't lower your expectations, guess what you're not gonna get and it'll be a damned long time before you do get it - and if you ever do.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana][SIZE=3]I've been bisexual 54 of my 63 years of life and if I've learned nothing about this, it's that it doesn't really matter how you got to be bisexual or even when you did; you either believe yourself to be and are now waiting for that one moment to verify things or you've accepted that it is what it is and are going about being bisexual and in the best way you can. It doesn't matter if you're just a cock sucker, a top, a bottom, or even that guy for whom that top/bottom thing doesn't mean shit because either way, it's all good; what does matter is that you're doing something that men have been doing for only God knows how long and something that a lot of men wouldn't and couldn't do. Sure, there's a lot of shame attached to this but we, as humans, have always been ashamed of having sex; it's too personal, private, no one else's business except the people involved and it's such a shameful thing that people who are obviously having sex will tap dance all around the fact that they're getting naked and fucking each other. And when you're bisexual, well, these days, it doesn't get any "worse" than that and because so many people are overly concerned about what other people think about this - and people who aren't or couldn't be bisexual - we wind up drinking the Kool-Aid and letting their thoughts, feelings, and opinions affect our desire and ability to get out there and have sex, by any means necessary, and with anyone who'd want to have sex with us. It does seem that the older you are, the less of a fuck you give about what other people think about this. Are you some kind of freak because you like pussy and dick? Maybe... and maybe you're doing better than they are because at least you're having sex. Maybe they're not getting any at all; maybe they're not getting enough or not having it in a way that's satisfying... and maybe they're just a bunch of haters because they know, deep down inside, that they don't have the courage to stop relying on a single source for sex - and then think of themselves as being superior because they're only getting pussy or dick. It sucks to be them and any problems they have with bisexuality should not ever be a bisexual's problem or, as I've told people, "Don't get pissy with me because I can do something you can't." Who am I? I'm the guy who has the nerve to talk about this without any of the bullshit, to shine a light on the things we know that exists but look away from them because a bunch of very dead people said that this is what we should always do and, thus, denying the stone cold fact that we are human and sex, in any form, is part and parcel of being human.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana][SIZE=3]Shameful? Heinous? Sinful? All of that and then some... still doesn't change the fact that a lot of bisexuals became bisexual via this route. It's easy to say to one's self that, jeez, ya know, maybe I shouldn't have done it like that even though one knows that you can't change what's already been done; you can only hope to be able to move forward and more so if such... childish experimentation still plagues one's mind. Of the guys I read about on Quora who said that this family action was responsible for their current state of sexuality, eh, maybe they were being truthful or just telling a story or even harboring some kind of regret that they may have had a chance at this but didn't really do it. A lot of people commented that the authors were full of shit, denying that the events happened and just outright lying about it. But I know it happens and more than people care to think about or admit to. Should modern day parents "give their blessing" to experimentation like this and allow their children to just "get it out of their system?" I really don't think that's a good thing given how shit can just go very wrong; I just know that there's never been a whole lot that parents can do to prevent it except to look for the signs and however they may present themselves and intervene when it becomes necessary to do so - and in whatever way that means to them. Did I really feel bad about having sex with my brother? Not one bit. Did I have some reservations about doing what he pretty much begged me to do? I sure as hell did but just as it is today, ya can't get in trouble for it unless you get caught - and we did get caught eventually... but what I've always wondered is if my mom already knew we were doing it to each other and decided in that moment to make it stop? Maybe... maybe not but it serves no purpose in even thinking about asking her about that and, um, we kept on doing it anyway despite the risks of getting busted again.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana][SIZE=3]I'd hear of guys (and even gals) being put on the path of bisexuality this way and I never held it against them; it just is what it is (or was what it was). Even on this site - and perhaps any other sites that exists, there are lot of stories about this and while some folks may still carry a lot of shame in this, oddly, it can be "helpful" to know that if you became bisexual in this way, well, you're not the only one. Without consent? Yeah, pretty fucked up because no one should ever be forced into this... but if you did consent and ya had fun while learning some shit about sex in the process, why be bothered by it? As parents, we "accept" that our kids might experiment with each other and we do go out of our way to prevent it even though there's no way we can watch them every moment of every day. We even tell ourselves that if we catch them at it, that's when we'll read them the riot act... but you gotta catch them first. I even know my own children experimented with each other; not only did I catch them but when I did, they confessed to it... but I didn't freak out behind it because I expected them to but I did have a very long talk with them about it and a talk that they may or may not have taken to heart. I'll put it like this: I know what they told me and that such experimenting would stop immediately... can't prove any of it.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana][SIZE=3]A lot of the guys I grew up with got started this way and to be probably brutally honest and direct, there were a lot of times when I would witness an older brother having his way with his younger sibling and it was no big deal for it to be happening. Once I went to a friend's house, was told he was in the backyard with his dad and when I went there, oops, there was dad standing there, pants all around his ankles, and my friend sucking that dick with a lot of eagerness. The funny part was his dad saw me and said, "Oh, hi - he'll be with you shortly!" and went back to watching his son blow him until he shot his load. Later, my friend and I were walking around and he told me that it was pretty much routine for him to be sucking his daddy's dick and he didn't think much of it... and I just nodded my understanding because where we lived, it was pretty routine for such things to be happening. But the thing that stood out to me about this guy is that he wanted to suck his daddy's dick and insisted that he was never forced, coerced, or co-opted into doing it. "It's fun," he said once we got to where we decided to go so we could suck each other's dick and do some fucking. Even for me, it was no big deal; my little brother wanted me to do it him so, sure, why not, even though we both knew that if we ever got caught or ratted out, all holy hell would be turned loose. The first pussy I ever ate was my sister's; our father told me to never do that, I mentioned it to her and she happily said, "Let's find out why!" Sure, about as wrong as it gets but also made a lot of sense and even like she told me right before the first time I fucked her, "If I can't trust you, who can I trust?" Is it shameful? Of course it is; our society has made sure of that over many generations and I used to joke that if you read the bible and the Book of Genesis, first there was Adam, then Eve; they got kicked out of the garden (and the now-shamed Bill Cosby had a hilarious routine about that) and along comes Cain and Able and, well, we know how that turned out for Able. Genesis then goes on to a long list of who begat whom... but the question I'd ask (and get in trouble for) was where did all those other people come from if the only woman alive was Eve? The bible doesn't mention God creating any other women and hitting them with the "go ye forth and multiply" edict... so where did the other people come from to do all this begetting? I looked at the science of DNA and biology, which proves that despite our differences, we're all really "related" and more than we're willing to believe. Now, I'm not saying that any of this is an excuse but it does stand out that this human behavior was deliberately vilified and prohibited; family members were doing each other and it just had to be stopped and especially M2M interactions since two guys sexing each other wasn't making any babies. Even I figured out that fucking my sister (and later, my step-sister) would only be a very bad thing if I fucked up and knocked one of them up; otherwise, where's the real harm and more so when everyone agreed that it would be a fun and necessary thing to do?[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana][SIZE=3]I was bored silly and decided to open my Quora app and read some of the anonymous secrets people were posting that they'd not post under their name and a lot of it was pretty funny and maybe even figments of the writer's imagination. I saw a lot of incest related stories - guys doing their sister, sisters doing their brother and, at least to me, all pretty typical in that these things do happen even though we pretend that they don't. One such posting was from a guy who got "seduced" by his uncle; another appeared where a guy's dad was laying the pipe to them regularly and I started to see other such entries where a brother or cousin was in the mix to both delight them with this forbidden way to have sex and, as a side effect, had some of them wondering if they were really gay or admitting that while they enjoyed it, the guilt of it still lingers in their minds. A lot of guys here have graciously shared their beginnings that included the much-forbidden incest and while it can certainly make a guy feel some kind of way to not only break one taboo but two of them, it happens; it's always happened, it's happening somewhere in the world right now, and it will continue to happen. The thing that always caught my attention about this is that for something to be so forbidden, wow, it sure happens a lot and to the point that for many bi guys, it's almost a rite of passage for a family member to introduce them to sex and not just out of "convenience" but perhaps more along the lines that it's better the devil you know than the one you don't right along with a thing about trust; if you can't trust your brother, cousin, dad, or uncle, who can you trust? Sure, sometimes that trust gets betrayed and some guys forced or coerced into compliance; sadly, that happens all too often as well but in the decades that I've been looking at this specific "entry point" for bi guys, some guys might have started out having an objection to this "heinous" thing, felt some kind of way about being backed into a corner and made to comply but, hmm, ya know, this ain't really that bad of a thing, I mean, other than it not supposed to be happening at all.[/SIZE][/FONT]