"Shut the Fuck Up!"

[cutenbiguy]

I have this problem that I've always had. My brain won't shut the fuck up. Especially when I am upset or bothered by things it just won't stop. I have literal arguments with myself, often. So I was just wondering if this is common thing or should I just keep telling my brain to shut the fuck up cause it's really starting to piss me off.

[tigerlily110]

Ya know hon, that is not an uncommon problem and if anyone who has a brain and an imagination can have it...especially when you are stressed or have a problem with a friend, lover or family member.
I was dumped a couple of months ago (guess it depends on whom you talk to) for someone else. Yeah my imagination went into overdrive and I was very upset for awhile...til I realized how much time I was wasting over someone who did not deserve any more of it and decided to do things for myself and nuture me. I had lost sight me as a person and now things are a whole lot better...
You are the most important person in your own equation, the solution to your problem if only you can tap into that portion of your mind that leads to a relaxed, peaceful you. The more you stress yourself out, these thoughts build and build like a snowball going downhill til it is all you think about when more than likely this is the last thing you want to do.
Sometimes we use these thoughts not to face something unpleasant in our own lives, our jobs, our relationships, etc. Instead of being angry with yourself, slow down, breath, close your eyes, listen to some soothing music. A nature walk is a very good idea too..and think of all the positive things you are grateful for...life can be wonderful if we let it...I am speaking to myself darlin too...LOL
Humm think of yourself as a friend...what advice would you give a trusted beloved friend if they had this quandry? More importantly realize that you are your best, most trusted friend and treat yourself thusly.
In writing this I have helped myself a lot too! I hope it helps!

[Falke]

Heh, welcome to my world. It's only bad when I get caught talking to myself by a coworker/friend/family! :bigrin:

[bubba]

Hi Cutenbi,
and everyone else who reads this. Tiggy is an extremely wise and eloquent woman. I cant imagine her advice not helping you and all who take time to listen to her. Hugz to you Tigerlilly. Thnx to you as well. Its not possible to be up all the time nor is it possible to be down all the time. Roll with the flow and treasure the good times while you put the down side behind you. Best of luck.


Bubba

[tigerlily110]

Awww thank you Bubba. You have always been an outstanding friend to me and a great person...Hugsss...I sure have missed you!
I know you can relate to this hon...going through some sort of major event in your life can cause you to take stock and realize the old addage of do not sweat the small stuff and that for the most part everything is small stuff.
Another way to find some silence in your head is to reach out to others. When you reach beyond yourself those thoughts do not hold the same importance anymore.

Hugss,

Tiggy

[lonelygirlintx]

I can agree, I sometimes realize I'm talking to myself about what's on my mind, what's bothering me. I'm sure my mother in law thinks I'm a little crazy. I do it all the time. And everywhere. Doing laundry, taking a shower, it's very common. And it's pretty fun. Unless you have arguments w/ yourself, which I sometimes do.

[thinkfree39]

I talk to myself a lot. I'm not usually quick with a comeback when somebody says something that gets under my skin. Then I think of something 15 minutes later and replay it over and over. Gotta break that rewind button!

[12voltman59]

I have this problem that I've always had. My brain won't shut the fuck up. Especially when I am upset or bothered by things it just won't stop. I have literal arguments with myself, often. So I was just wondering if this is common thing or should I just keep telling my brain to shut the fuck up cause it's really starting to piss me off.

Just one suggestion---you may want to consider trying some form of meditation--I know of one person who sits zen and is a practicing Buddhist who calls the always talking, noisy mind---"monkey mind" or also "wild mind"

Most of us will never get to a point of totally stilling the mind---but it is beneficial to try doing so----in Buddhism--one attains enlightnment when one can totally still the mind--

I don't know if it is necessary to attain "enlightenment" as they talk about---but there is value in trying to get the chaos of the mind under control---

[Germanicus]

I have this problem that I've always had. My brain won't shut the fuck up. Especially when I am upset or bothered by things it just won't stop. I have literal arguments with myself, often. So I was just wondering if this is common thing or should I just keep telling my brain to shut the fuck up cause it's really starting to piss me off.


Yes, for years it felt like I was awake even when I was asleep. It allowed me to achieve great things, since it let me master topics I never though possible. But its appetite grew with eating and eventually led to a burn-out. Its only an issue, when as you've pointed out, its turns to negative or self-destructive thoughts or behaviours. Zen buddhism might help you, counselling lessened it for me since it identified the things which can kick off such thinking. Usually I channel it into constructive behaviour like reading or perfecting my German. The internal debates can be useful at times since no-one knows you better than yourself and you can use it to work/reason through issues, etc., etc. Knowing how to control it (like training a dog to walk with a lead/leash on), rather than having it control you, is the key to liberation.

[wolfcamp]

You could try learning some meditation techniques. I have one thing that I do when my mind is racing and I can't get to sleep. I close my eyes and try to block out all thoughts by imagining a colorless, blank circle before my eyes. The circle takes up about half my vision, and feathers out to colorless darkness. If I'm distracted by any thoughts at all, I re-concentrate on the imagined circle. More often than not, the next thing I realize is that I am waking up in the morning. I think this technique would work to calm your mind even when you aren't trying to get to sleep. It's something I read about, and when I tried it, it worked for me.

[hey_there442]

I have that problem as well, when I was in middle school I'd get headaches from it. I would suggest very MODERATE marijuana usage, or meditation, reading can help at times. Or I play with my dog. Pets help too.

Good luck with you hun!
*hugs*

[soulseeker]

Hey this has plagued me all my life as well, especially when there are negative things happening....the advice of Tigerlily was superb.
"The measure of your anxiety is the measue of your distance from God (or whatever higher power (s) in which you may believe.

[Bluebiyou]

Part normal, part ill.
If your mind were so blank as to only think/perceive the present, I would merely say you were not terribly emotive, creative, or intelligent (have you had a lobotomy lately?).
When I'm relaxed (and usually alone) I feel fine talking aloud. As a matter of fact, if I'm trying to feel-it-through (psych-speak), talking aloud while I'm thinking allows more emotion/feeling to be expressed. Thus I 'get to the other side' of the issue sooner (emotional resolution/acceptance on my part). If you are having some tough times... sexually, finantially, death, divorce... then it is appropriate to go through this. If this is the normal way you live life - sleep depriving brain screaming - then you probably have an underlying issue and should seek professional psych help... just like you'd seek professional medical help if you had pnemonia symptoms. It may be something as simple as ... being alone... unresolved parent issue... hell, a hundred different things. But a professional should be able to help you find it and get over/past it.
Good luck!

[bisexualinsocal]

I used to have that problem. For me, it literally felt like I was going to burn a hole in my brain because of how quickly my thoughts raced. It was at ridiculous speed, too. I couldn't even drive my car because I'd stare at the license plate in front of me and just start trying to find an algorithm that would give me the exact number sequence or exponentials of the numbers. The hard reality is that it was just my ego trying to figure out all the fine minutia of life. Instead of living life, I wasted energy trying to figure it all out. Then one day I realized; I'll never understand everything about life.

Someone on here made a point about the weatherman being unable to predict 3 days worth of weather. Well if artificial knowledge can't predict the weather, then man will never know the destiny of his life or of the world. It's better to leave such things in the hands of God.

Now the racing thoughts are still there but I put them to constructive use.

[nothings5d]

I have this problem that I've always had. My brain won't shut the fuck up. Especially when I am upset or bothered by things it just won't stop. I have literal arguments with myself, often. So I was just wondering if this is common thing or should I just keep telling my brain to shut the fuck up cause it's really starting to piss me off.

Happens to me all the time, and I've learned to live with it most of the time. What I really can't stand is when my brain decides to say the same words in three different tones of voice simultaneously. One is quiet and monotone, the second is normal speach, and the third is shouting at the top of it's lungs figuratively speaking. And what's worse is that it only seems to happen when I'm driving, so I can't shut my mind down, to reboot I guess you could say.

I try to think of the brain as a computer, since in essence that's what it is. In any computer system, especially one with programs that are put together quick and dirty, which our brains would have to do to be constantly adapting, there are random bit's of data floating around until another program accidentally picks them up or the operating system cleans them out. That's what's happening with your thoughts it's random bits of data that get picked up to be processed and see if there's any reason for them to still be around, or in JAVA terms your brain has stopped to "collect the garbage." The more you use your brain the more random bits of data there are out there to cause problems. That, at least as I believe, is the main reason we need to sleep. After so much time awake we need to limit the number of active "programs" so our brains can collect all the "garbage". I've found that the better I sleep at night the less my brain wanders during the day. Maybe you just need a new bed.:tong:

[Cherokee_Mountaincat]

lol Try being a writer like I am, Hon. I Always have something rolling around in this bizaare brain of mine, and sometimes its hard to shut off a story, or a piece For said story. Just try relaxing more, or talk to your Dr about some kind of mild meds.:}
Hugs
Cat

[jennessex]

ok, here's a trick i use because (as a woman) i need to vent about alot of things... Driving in or home from work, I'm talking to myself, so instead of having the other people look at me like I'm some nut job in the car next to them, i pick up my cell phone and just rant!!! They think i'm talking to someone on the phone.

It's good to talk to your self, because sometimes that is the only real way to figure out what your truelly feeling. Bottling it up and telling your brain to shut the fuck up, well, you might as well become a vegetable!!!

Jennessex

[donnydarko]

I have this problem that I've always had. My brain won't shut the fuck up. Especially when I am upset or bothered by things it just won't stop. I have literal arguments with myself, often. So I was just wondering if this is common thing or should I just keep telling my brain to shut the fuck up cause it's really starting to piss me off.


i have arguements with myself too LOL i dont think its anything bad.i think everybody has those but just doesnt realize it lol :P:flag2:

[onewhocares]

I too have this issue. I do not talk to my self, but my mind races. For me I think so much faster than I can speak. I tend to leave out some things when I speak..it is really a nuisance to be honest. People look at me like I am nuts. I have tried different things to slow it down but little works for me. Drinking was the only thing that I found to help, but gave up for the most part when I hurt my back. I am waiting for a friend to teach me meditation. What I have found to help was taking up kayaking...when I am out on the water my mind seems to go blank and I am to concentrate on what is around me.

This also effected my sleeping....I was finally given a suggestion to fall asleep. I put in a video or DVD and let it play..I fall asleep and when I wake up I put it on again...it lulls me to sleep. I find it works well.

Belle

[fairchild]

sometimes the only intelligent conversation you can have is with yourself.

[someotherguy]

It sounds like a disorder that could be helped by therapy. If so, a psychologist would be the kind of doctor to approach.

Yes, that makes sense. maybe you should look into it.
Are you kidding? The last thing you want to do is let a doctor know you have a problem.
Me? I'm not the one with the problem. If anyone has a problem here it is you.
I don't want to hear it. Shut the fuck up.
Hey, you asked.

[vittoria]

well...

When I first saw this thread it reminded me of a song by this band "Cake"...

Here's the vid for it... (just listen to the lyrics... it was a homemade vid by someone else :) )


http://youtube.com/watch?v=Na7sAxDDjMk&feature=related


And to answer your query... it's normal for the brain to wander.

[cutenbiguy]

I just want to thank everyone for their advice and support. I'm not having any crazy thoughts just dwelling on the bullshit stuff. Thanks everyone!

[BronzeBobby]

Your problem happens to me all the time with regard to conflicts at work. I get caught in the middle of arguments and a single memo from my boss can send me into a tailspin. The only solutions I know of:

1) Just give it time.

2) Don't start feeling stressed about your inability to stop yourself from feeling stressed. That's just double stress.

3) Don't send emails when you're obsessing about something. If anything, just post crap on here. Don't get people you know in the real world involved.

[alaskacouple]

This is a very timely topic. If anyone would like to read a very good book on the subject I recommend getting a copy of "A New Earth - Awakening to Your Life's Purpose", by Eckhart Tolle.

In brief summary, he explains how all of the great religious traditions recognize that humans are beings consisting of a physical body, an emotional "mind", and a deeper spiritual essence. He further explains that the constant voice we hear in our mind's ear is not in fact the true essence of ourself but is the "ego" which we have created (and which our societies have put into us) over the course of our time on earth. The problem with that is that the "ego" each of us listens to is a distorted accumulation of ideas and beliefs that actually have little relation to reality (for example, what I think I heard you say is really just my own ego's interpretation of your ego's presentation - even after hearing you I have no idea about the "true you" hidden deep below your own ego's wall of illusion - the "true you" has been twice filtered, once by your own ego and then again by mine). The key is to understand and then limit our ego's control over us.

This book is a follow-up to his other work, "The Power Of Now". He explains that if we will but stop and take note of what that voice in our head is saying we will find that it usually involves something that either occurred in the past or something we imagine will occur in the future. The problem with that is that in either case we are agitating ourselves about something that is beyond our control. The true life is only lived in the moment. Think of a second hand as it sweeps around the clock ticking off the moments of our life - one second -opps it's gone, to be replaced by the next. In each second there is life, but once it is gone negative thought spent on it is wasted.

So, if anyone wants to get a better understanding of that "voice" get the book. Once the "voice" is silenced one can begin to hear the deep and abiding peace from within that we all crave. But, it is too much to explain in a post.

[Azrael]

My head never shuts up. Ever. I take drugs for this (a beta blocker and an atypical neuroleptic). Channeling your energy, manipulating your chi, exercise, all those things are great. I listen to lots of Death and Thrash Metal and Rockabilly and Punk, all of which are great for getting a little tension out from time to time.

The Seroquel helps. Not everyone needs meds. Sleeping well, eating well and running help more, I think.
You don't need to see a doctor of any kind to benefit from old fashioned talk therapy. Siblings and dear friends are great for this purpose.

Creative outlets. I can't stress this one enough. Write, Draw, Paint, Sculpt, Photograph, Render, Build, whatever the hell it is that you do to nurture your creative spirit, DO IT!!!!! For me it's writing, playing my bass, playing my drum and playing with voltage :) Whatever you do do it boldly but carefully.

Go for a 10 mile run/hike. Variable terrain. See how busy your brain is after that, that's what I do. A little herb can be very helpful, but take it easy and be careful.

Also, drink some chai and crank out some Joni Mitchell. The rest will follow.

[pecker]

PTSD..........................not a cure learn to cope there is help out there..................................all of you need to search this out........................i did..........it helps

[DiamondDog]

Meditation, yoga, and cardio exercise (45mins 3-4x a week works for me, YMMV).

I also agree with listening to some relaxing music Joni Mitchell or whoever you like and drinking tea, and don't take things so seriously! :)

[Skater Boy]

Creative outlets. I can't stress this one enough. Write, Draw, Paint, Sculpt, Photograph, Render, Build, whatever the hell it is that you do to nurture your creative spirit, DO IT!!!!! For me it's writing, playing my bass, playing my drum and playing with voltage :) Whatever you do do it boldly but carefully.



I'll second that. If it weren't for my little creative projects, I'd have been locked permanently up at the Funny Farm by now. I guess its kinda like "Escapism", but also focusing your mind on one particular thing (which means less space for random thoughts), and channeling your psyche... expressing yourself in a productive way...

:2cents:

[The Barefoot Contess]

I guess I guy I dated had the same problem... and it drove me absolutely insane :eek: I also guess it was not any easier for him.

[Skater Boy]

I guess I guy I dated had the same problem... and it drove me absolutely insane :eek: I also guess it was not any easier for him.

Aw come on, Contessa... we'll make an "Honorary Schizo" of you yet. Its easy and fun, you'll see. You could start practising in advance by doing seemingly random things at inappropriate moments. The element of surprise is one of the Schizo's most potent weapons. Start off small... something like laughing uncontrollably for no apparent reason, at random intervals. That usually confuses them slightly, but after a while they'll start to cotton on, and pretend to ignore it. Not to worry... the Schizo has many more weapons in his (or her) arsenal. You could then progress to singing the chorus of "Video Killed The Radio Star" at full volume every time someone uses your name. A useful technique that I have employed in the past, is to select the chorus of a different song each for a whole host of other words. For example, sing Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" every time someone says "you" and Madonna's "Like A Virgin" every time someone says "OK". For maximum effect, you must rigidly adhere to the rules of this game. And you may find that dancing in the style of the artist in question, whilst singing, helps to baffle the onlookers even further. If this fails... what next? Well, then we must try a little harder... at times like this, I find that standing on one spot and spinning round and round, as fast as you can is a useful technique. It works best if accompanied by a "Woooooooh" utterance, and you may wish to extend your arms outward whilst doing it. You'll find that, after a while, you become so dizzy that you cannot help but collapse in a heap on the floor.
When this inevitably happens, you must curl up into the *tightest* ball that you can, and once you've regained your bearings, attempt to manoeuvre yourself (whilst still curled in a ball) around the surrounding environment. Be sure to knock into a few things (or people) in the process. "And what if THAT fails?" I hear you say... well, then we must pull out all the stops. Try venturing out into a busy public space (a shopping mall, for example, would be ideal), and, upon spotting anybody holding an object of some kind in their hand/s, you should make an immediate dash towards them. When up close, frantically swipe the object from their hands and cast it to the floor, where you can then begin stamping on it as hard as you can until it is completely decimated. Feel free to wildly scream profanities whilst doing this. You may even want to allude to some sort of sinister conspiracy that the object was undoubtedly a part of. Once done, do not wait for their shock to wear off- quickly seek out your next target and then do the same thing again. And again. And again. Trust me, before long you'll be well into the "Schizo Spirit", and loving every minute of it.

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/confused009.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/bounce018.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org) http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/whacky099.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org)

[The Barefoot Contess]

Aw come on, Contessa... we'll make an "Honorary Schizo" of you yet. Its easy and fun, you'll see. You could start practising in advance by doing seemingly random things at inappropriate moments. The element of surprise is one of the Schizo's most potent weapons. Start off small... something like laughing uncontrollably for no apparent reason, at random intervals. That usually confuses them slightly, but after a while they'll start to cotton on, and pretend to ignore it. Not to worry... the Schizo has many more weapons in his (or her) arsenal. You could then progress to singing the chorus of "Video Killed The Radio Star" at full volume every time someone uses your name. A useful technique that I have employed in the past, is to select the chorus of a different song each for a whole host of other words. For example, sing Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" every time someone says "you" and Madonna's "Like A Virgin" every time someone says "OK". For maximum effect, you must rigidly adhere to the rules of this game. And you may find that dancing in the style of the artist in question, whilst singing, helps to baffle the onlookers even further. If this fails... what next? Well, then we must try a little harder... at times like this, I find that standing on one spot and spinning round and round, as fast as you can is a useful technique. It works best if accompanied by a "Woooooooh" utterance, and you may wish to extend your arms outward whilst doing it. You'll find that, after a while, you become so dizzy that you cannot help but collapse in a heap on the floor.
When this inevitably happens, you must curl up into the *tightest* ball that you can, and once you've regained your bearings, attempt to manoeuvre yourself (whilst still curled in a ball) around the surrounding environment. Be sure to knock into a few things (or people) in the process. "And what if THAT fails?" I hear you say... well, then we must pull out all the stops. Try venturing out into a busy public space (a shopping mall, for example, would be ideal), and, upon spotting anybody holding an object of some kind in their hand/s, you should make an immediate dash towards them. When up close, frantically swipe the object from their hands and cast it to the floor, where you can then begin stamping on it as hard as you can until it is completely decimated. Feel free to wildly scream profanities whilst doing this. You may even want to allude to some sort of sinister conspiracy that the object was undoubtedly a part of. Once done, do not wait for their shock to wear off- quickly seek out your next target and then do the same thing again. And again. And again. Trust me, before long you'll be well into the "Schizo Spirit", and loving every minute of it.

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LOL, patinador, that was just hilarious.

[Skater Boy]

Which schizo? Schozophrenic? Schizoaffective? Schizoid Personality? Schizotypal Disorder? There are millions of flavors of crazy.

True enough... although I just used the word "Schizo" as a vulgarization. After all, we're all brothers and sisters (of a sort) in this big, happy "Schizo Family"...

[tonasket]

I have this problem that I've always had. My brain won't shut the fuck up. Especially when I am upset or bothered by things it just won't stop. I have literal arguments with myself, often. So I was just wondering if this is common thing or should I just keep telling my brain to shut the fuck up cause it's really starting to piss me off.

DO NOT STFU............your mind is a precious thing...don'twaste it.
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[geezerguy]

I thought I was the only one this happened to. It seems when I decided to come out (at least to my wife) my mind just won't stop. It's sometimes comforting since I am the only one I personally know that I can talk to, but most of the time it is disconcerting. I ask myself, am I going crazy? Self says, maybe, you really need to find a real person to talk with!